QUOTE(harrypottergeek2 @ Jun 3 2008, 08:23 PM)

Any objective outsider would see Snape as a bad influence (i.e. one who's footsteps should not be followed), and this, IMO, is something you should never see in a good mentor (at least not to this extreme - everyone has their faults, but some faults are more definitive in a negative way, and that should not be an issue for a good mentor).
I agree. Even though, I do think that Snape in some ways helps Harry *develop*, but I'd
think that mentoring thing shouldn't be negative. At least, I've always associated mentoring with some positive *force*, positive feelings towards the mentored one. We see examples when Dumbledore appears to have forgotten Harry in OotP, but we know that his intentions were good and Snape showed that he didn't care even a tiny bit for Harry. So, the way that I understand mentoring he couldn't be a mentor.
QUOTE(lirene @ Jun 3 2008, 05:05 PM)

as a reader, I feel that mentors as a theme in the HP series is quite pronounced; even if that wasn't necessarily Rowling's intention. Harry grew up essentially alone with the Dursleys. He really didn't have anyone to look up to, or to guide him. So whether or not Harry was subconsciously seeking a mentor is surely food for thought. However, I certainly agree that Harry's mission would have been so much more difficult if he had to go at it alone.
I also think that the mentoring theme is quite prominent in the series. I mean, we're seeing the main characters growing up and also in the school - I think that everyone needs mentoring when growing up.

I don't think that Harry is
looking for mentors, but that he kind of just
finds them - if that makes sense. A scene from PS comes to mind when Draco offers Harry some
help picking friends and Harry refuses. Well, I don't really know how that's relevant to my point lol. But well, Harry says that he can decide for himself, this, to me, kind of shows that Harry also deserves credit for picking the
right people to mentor him (I think, this might have already been mentioned somewhere in this thread).
QUOTE(wickedboy @ Jun 5 2008, 05:49 AM)

Hagrid at first, then Dumbledore and Hagrid kind of fell off (but still loved), and then Sirius, then Remus then the three died. Harry's parents were more like "father figures", however, in the end, I could include his father because everyone always said he thought or had done something like his dad and later Harry started making comments about how he'd stand up to Voldemort like his dad and never bow and planned to do other stuff like him then in Deathly Hallows he asked himself what his father might do in a situation he was in. So I see his dad as a mentor, not his mum so much, but if he thought of her that way, then she would be also. That I guess would be based on what he knew of them and what he subconsciously recalled from a baby.
That's some interesting thoughts about James. Even though I like
momwitch's point of view that mentoring should include
interaction between the mentor and the mentored one and mutual growth and such, I kind of like the idea that James was Harry's mentor even though he didn't interact with
Dad, but with rather with his Dad as he found him in himself (sorry, that sounds confusing, but I hope, you know what I'm trying to say) - I mean, thinking of what his father would do in one situation or another and then acting that way.
QUOTE(momwitch @ Jun 7 2008, 08:12 AM)

I still think there has to be a reciprocal growth between student and teacher to make a relationship truly a mentorship one. We see that Dumbledore has grown throughout the Series in his interaction with Harry, he is willing to admit that he made mistakes and has misjudged and underestimated what Harry was capable of handling (eg. the circumstances surrounding his parents' deaths and his friendship with Grindelwald), so to me, their relationship is almost a textbook Mentorship one. Remus learns from Harry in going home to Tonks and their unborn child - and is able to experience - for whatever short time that was - the love and joy that being a parent can bring. Hagrid, though he remains childlike and trusting, learns that there are times when discretion and caution must be exercised in dealing with unknowns, whether they are cute but not so cuddly baby dragons, giant spiders - or the arrogance exhibited by "entitled" individuals, who don't think that the rules of respect (especially those followed by "lesser" creatures such as hippogriffs) apply to them.
You summed what I'm thinking as well here

I picked these three people (Dumbledore, Lupin and Hagrid) in the poll. I like your observations about Dumbledore and Harry's mentoring-relationship here: I agree that they both grow, I think, Dumbledore realises that he has to
grow / change in order to be able to be a mentor to Harry, because as the story progresses we see that Harry grows and needs more from his mentor than he needed in the beginning. In PS, he doesn't *push* Dumbledore to get all the truth out; and in the end of OotP, Dumbledore realises that he
has to tell Harry more, because Harry's grown and he needs, well, a slightly different kind of guiding --- If that makes sense.