It's time for some fun.

What bit of the books do you hate most?

I hate that Harry says "Yeah" every time!!

The only thing i've ever "hated" in a HP book was Umbrige in Book 5, but now i was extremely upset that Book 6 really had no closure.  You know, the part in Dumbledore's office where he explains everything to harry and you close the book refreshed and excited.  At the end of this book i had so many unanswered questions and so much emotion locked up inside of me that i honestly did not do anything for two days except think about the possibilities, anguish about how long i'd have to wait until Book 7, and browse these forums to release some of the emotion... thats the only thing i disliked about the book.

A few people I spoke to, did not think there was enough action.
Book 6 answered a lot of questions. I believe the  action will be in 7.
I did not like Umbridge either (book 5 or 6). I kept hoping they would give Dumbledore a 21 gun send off and take Umbridge out(by accident).
The Tonk and Lupin thing. It was OK. But I felt it was done, just to throw us off.

I hated Tonks!!! Where was the spunky, fun witch from OotP??? I would have bought her being sad over Sirius, but in love with Lupin?? There were no signs of that in the other book. I also didn't like the HBP plot line. What was the point? Yeah, Snape is the HBP, so? What does that mean? What does that have to do with anything? I'm hoping they'll be an answer to that in the next book.

As I am sure many of you were, I was absolutely devastated by Dumbledore's death, and could not stop sobbing from the time he said "I am with you" until I had read the last chapter for the third time. For me, Dumbledore was an essential part of relaying the sentiment of empowering the good in the wizarding world and in Harry. While I understand that J.K. Rowling means the 7th book to demonstrate what Harry can do on his own, without the protection of his mother, Sirius, or Dumbledore, the seventh book seems like it will be horribly vacant without Dumbledore. I personally hope he returns in some form or another (although we have been reassured that people cannot come back from the dead). I would love to have a sob party with anyone else who is crushed over this loss. (I must say, however, that I found the scene in which Harry kneels by Dumbledore's body and wipes away the blood on his faith unbearably touching).

I can't stand the Harry/Ginny pairing. (I've said that a million times already... heh)
I didn't like that we didn't get to see more DADA classes with Snape.
I hate how Mundungus was selling Sirius's stuff in Hogsmeade. Unbelievable.
I hate how JKR gives us these clues, but I'm not smart enough to pick up on them!
I hate how we're going to have to wait seemingly forever for book 7!

Yeah the Tonks thing was just stupid in my opinion, JK ruined a good character in Tonks the whole book just because she was in love with Lupin. Why does that matter at all? That came out of no where, like NikiTish said, there were no signs in the other books. I just think that was unnecessary. Also I hated Malfoy the first few books but actually like him more now for some strange reason, same with Snape, I guess it's just because they're more interesting now and not just bullies.

I also didn't like Umbridge and the ministry as a whole in book 5 and 6. I hate that there's no more DA meetings, those were fun. One last thing, I hate how there's so much time in between when the books are realesed, I know JK Rowling has kids and likes to spend time with them, but it's so boring with no Harry Potter for two years


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Vernon Dursley because he is a sadistic child abusing SOB even though Jo didn't give him much ink in this book!

I hate how Harry still can barely register a passing 'hi' to Neville.

I agree with the previous posts about the Tonks/Lupin bit.

I hate Percy for being such a jerk.

I hate that Umbridge is still around.

And I hate not only that the wait for the next book will be so long, but also that it will be the last one to look forward to.

I don't really hate anything as such, but I do get a bit bored of Herbology. Plants... yawwwn.

I hate Percy!!!! i´m going to join ron and punch him in the nose!!!!! and i also hate the fact that Draco´s used Fred and George products.. i dislike the Mundugos theft as well

i hate the obsessive behaviour of harry. And allthough he is right about some things it's really annoying

I hate that we may never know Dumbledore's story. He was my favorite character. I know Jo said something about writing a book on him in the interview (half-jokingly), but that would be the best!!! It doesn't even have to be a book, just an overview of his life.

Oh and I don't like how he died, I thought it would have been a grand scene, not him slumped against a wall, killed by a member of the staff he asked to do it.

i hate that the book was so short (plus the font was way bigger than ootp which makes it double as short) i hate that tonks was so depressd the whole time too-i mean i could understand that she was upset and worried about lupin (especially with greyback around) but that was a bit over done. and i would hav also like to have seen more DADA. and i hate that my favourite character became a murderer!

I HATE HATE HATE....

1. as it has been said so many times before that he is gone. wont say name b.c of spoiler... I'm sure it must have been crazy... people all over the world are mourning the lose of this HP character. He was Harry's guide. uugghhh a great man a great wizard.
2. now i know that i read somewhere that JK rowling wanted to make the book shorter... but i thought it could have been SSSOOOO much longer. I mean... I wanted to see so much more in the area of DADA classes with snape and harry. as well as more interaction between Harry and the rest oh his classmates.
3. You know what else ticked me off... the fact that harry, ron, and hermione didn't go down and see much of hagrid. how he was so heartbroken about aragog... granted the spider did try to eat them, but he was important to hagrid... and they should have all gone down and shown him some support.
4. Yeah... I didn't like Tonks being all sullen all the time. I thought she should have had a bigger part in the book too. She was so fun in the last book. *can you tell i wanted this book to be like 5000 pages long with like millions of subplots*
5. i also hated the all ready mentioned fact that i was left with thousands of questions at the end of this book! I've been so excited and there was no closure. I can't wait for the 7th one... its killing me!!!! AAAAAHHHHHH i love harry potter

I'm glad I'm not the only one regarding the Lupin/Tonks thing.  It just seemed...weird and awkward.  

I also hate that there wasn't more Remus in the book, but realize most was at Hogwarts and/or with Dumbledore and I'm hopeful we'll see more of Lupin in Book 7 as long as it isn't just him snogging Tonks.  

I hated the "Won Won" thing.  Surely someone would have told her to get a grip!  

I hated seeing Dumbledore "pleading" and seeming helpless.  I feel like the safety net has been shredded and wish he had gone in a more dignified way since he was the greatest wizard of the age.

QUOTE(moonymaniac @ July 21 2005,17:29 )

I'm glad I'm not the only one regarding the Lupin/Tonks thing.  It just seemed...weird and awkward.  

I also hate that there wasn't more Remus in the book, but realize most was at Hogwarts and/or with Dumbledore and I'm hopeful we'll see more of Lupin in Book 7 as long as it isn't just him snogging Tonks.  

I hated the "Won Won" thing.  Surely someone would have told her to get a grip!  

I hated seeing Dumbledore "pleading" and seeming helpless.  I feel like the safety net has been shredded and wish he had gone in a more dignified way since he was the greatest wizard of the age.

Yeah, I would have liked Dumbledore to die fighting at least, it would've been more interesting in my opinion.

<font color='#000080'>Apart from what we're supposed to hate (umbridge/ the durselys etc) there's nothing much I HATE about Harry Potter. It just too great. I must say that Hate is was too strong a word when relating anything to Harry potter. I do have dislikes, annoyances of which i discuss below...
Firstly I have to agree:

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I didn't like that we didn't get to see more DADA classes with Snape.

I loved that Snape was finally victorious and got the position. Knowing that he'd only get it for 1 year i really wanted to see a lot of classes. The one where Harry says something like "You don't have to call me 'sir'" was the best - although Harry got detention.

I think there was also a piece of homework we saw where Harry said he didn't agree on Snape's view about Dementors but we didn't find out why.

I really missed the classes, and harry general interaction with the characters. The book was WAY too short.Neville wasn't in it much, i would have though he'd be important to Harry now that he knows about the prophecy.

Also Hagrid, harry seemed to be ignoring him. I didn't see why aragog died. when i saw the chapter title "After the burial" i though hey, this is gonna be good but ...agagog? I didn't really care. (which is harsh but hey he wasn't that nice!) I don't know whether aragog's death will be important but it didn't seem to be.

Other than that there's not much i didn't like. I have no problem with Tonks, Harry/Ginny shipping, the half-blood prince or anything else. I didn't really even mind that there was no closure to the book. - I mean who else was gonna do it! Harry saying he wouldn't go back to hogwarts really surprised me at first but seemed right. I mean there's not much point- his time would be better spent looking for Hurcuxes. Whether or not he does in the end decide to go back doesn't matter, but his pondering does give good end of the book - for me.

That's about it really. Enough ranting.

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Am I the only one who liked the Tonks/Lupin thing? I thought it was kinda cute, plus it totally threw me off track b/c I thought that Tonks might be the Imperiused person in Hogsmeade--acting all wierd, can't do her old Patronus, etc. Course, I've always had a crush on Lupin myself, so maybe I just understand where's she's coming from.  :wink:

Didn't like:

Neville's disappearance from the plot! He grew so important in OOP between the DA (we see his power/ability increase tenfold) and the prophesy, plus his growing friendship it would seem with Harry, Ginny, etc. In this book, he barely registers as a character! You'd think Harry would be hanging out more with him in general, especially as Neville has repeatedly put his life on the line for Harry.

Ships. Blah blah blah. Won-Won. Honestly-is Hermione the only girl from that class-year that we can have any respect for?

Class-work. I thought NEWT classes would be so interesting! We barely see any besides Potions. DADA classes with Snape--come on! We want to see them, right? Every DADA teacher but Lupin was a complete fiasco until now, and now we are shut out of DADA in favor of snogging. Hogwarts is still a school, right?

All of the deaths. Not Dumbledore's so much as I understand why he had to die in order for the plot to move forward, but the barely-mentioned ones. In all of the books date, Rowlings killed off:
Frank the Muggle, Bertha Jorkins, Cedric Diggory, and Sirius Black in the present-day.
In this book it seems like some character dies every chapter, including that five-year-old boy savaged by the were-wolf. I realize that this is to underscore that fact that yes, LV is back now and to build Greyback up as a truly evil character (who wants to bet that he'll have a big role in the last book?) but I would find it disturbing for children to read. If I had kids, I could read SS to a six-year-old. This book, I'd save for junior high!

Edit: JKR, you're still an absolutely amazing writer and one of my all-time favorites. Don't take it personally, it's just that all your fans actually live in Potterland!

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Didn't like:

Neville's disappearance from the plot! He grew so important in OOP between the DA (we see his power/ability increase tenfold) and the prophesy, plus his growing friendship it would seem with Harry, Ginny, etc. In this book, he barely registers as a character! You'd think Harry would be hanging out more with him in general, especially as Neville has repeatedly put his life on the line for Harry.

Ships. Blah blah blah. Won-Won. Honestly-is Hermione the only girl from that class-year that we can have any respect for?

Class-work. I thought NEWT classes would be so interesting! We barely see any besides Potions. DADA classes with Snape--come on! We want to see them, right? Every DADA teacher but Lupin was a complete fiasco until now, and now we are shut out of DADA in favor of snogging. Hogwarts is still a school, right?

All of the deaths. Not Dumbledore's so much as I understand why he had to die in order for the plot to move forward, but the barely-mentioned ones. In all of the books date, Rowlings killed off:
Frank the Muggle, Bertha Jorkins, Cedric Diggory, and Sirius Black in the present-day.
In this book it seems like some character dies every chapter, including that five-year-old boy savaged by the were-wolf. I realize that this is to underscore that fact that yes, LV is back now and to build Greyback up as a truly evil character (who wants to bet that he'll have a big role in the last book?) but I would find it disturbing for children to read. If I had kids, I could read SS to a six-year-old. This book, I'd save for junior high!

:note: Jeez, You said everything I was going to say! But I was also hoping we'd find out more about the Marauders and Lily and Snape back when they were at school. And I wonder if we'll ever find out what Dudley saw/heard when he was demented in OotP?

There is very little in the books that i dont like, I thought that the lupin/tonks thing was great! The only thing i didn't like was that we were left with more questions at the end of this book, without gaining many answers, even though we get some (the horcruxes etc.) I also wished for more info on lily due to that fact that she has been kept in the shadows for so long, although i understand that JKR is saving it for the 7th book, its just so hard to wait for the answers!

I agree with a previous poster, "hate" is a pretty strong word.

Some dislikes, though:

Hagrid cries all the time.

Ginny suddenly blossoming into superwoman by the 5th book, when she was still mousy in the 4th. I'd rather have seen Harry with Luna.

Cho. Ugh. What an awful character.

What happened to Charlie Weasley?

My biggest disapointment: Harry seemingly getting over Sirius' death so easily. I realize they can't dwell on him forever, and I didn't really care for Sirius that much, but his sudden shocking death should have affected Harry's character more.I speak as someone who lost a parent as a kid so I know.

Tonks depressed after the ministry battle is absolutely correct. I assume as an auror that was her first taste of fighting so it was like a real wake up call to her.Plus she's separated from Remus, and he's depressed over losing Sirius, so her moodiness is very accurate. Makes her grow up a bit, saddly.

Hate that we didn't get to see more Pansy/Draco!

The Lupin/Tonks thing was definitely awkward and unnecessary.  I mean, Lupin's in his late 40's I assume and Tonks is, what, 23?  Didn't it say somewhere that Tonks is 5 years older than Harry?  Anyway, I hated that.

Everytime I read Chamber of Secrets I get a hot, sinking feeling in my chest with every Gilderoy Lockhart passage I'm forced to read.  I hated that character.  Funny in OOP, but annoying and ignorant in COS.

Everything about the Dursley's.  'Nuff said.

The end of HBP, being left with so many questions...RAB, Dumbledore really dead, where and what are the horcruxes, Hogwarts closing...I don't really hate this, just kinda perturbed.

QUOTE(Momforsnj @ Aug. 16 2005,10:52 am)

Ginny suddenly blossoming into superwoman by the 5th book, when she was still mousy in the 4th. I'd rather have seen Harry with Luna.

Perfectly put.

Capslock Harry in OOTP.  Put me right off the book.  I was absolutely furious that he got himself kicked off the Quidditch team because he let Malfoy get to him.

Ok, this is my first time posting, but I have to vent.

What I hate most is the lack of dimension in the charactersin Harry Potter, especially in this last book.
JK Rowling is superb at describing the setting. She uses such detail that the places form around you. However, I feel that she leaves the reader completely on the outside of the characters. There is little insight as to how each character reacts to situations, other than the obvious happy, sad, angsty, and pensive.

I long for a character in book seven with whom you can feel akin to, who has flaws and pains and triumphs that you can feel along with them. Instead of constantly observing from the outside.

So, I say, a little less time on the environment, a little more time on the intention and corresponding emotions.

Oh, and Harry needs to develope something of a dry wit. No way would a hero surrounded by constant misfortune ever survive without one. But, these are all dreams of mine that shall never come to pass.<span style='color:darkblue'></span>

What I hate the most.... Errrr.... Umbridge, having to wait eighteen to twenty-four months for tome seven, Umbridge, the fact those boys (and girls) are only interested in gaining as much insight as possible into dental expertise, Umbridge, we do not get to see much of NEWT classes, Umbridge and the rather transparent intentions of Vernon when it comes to Harry's heritage. Did I mention Umbridge?

I hate that Percey still can't get over himself, he was wrong just admit it!
I wish that something would have happened to Umbridge, and something to Fudge, they didn't have a punishment at all for there stupidity!

along with everyone else i though percy was really anoying. Tonks and lumpin were a little out of the blue but it will probly make more sence in the next book. I strongly disliked how ron treated hermione in this book, she never did anything to him and he was sooooooo mean. Umbridge was probly the most idiodic, anoying and just plane mean all at the same time person in the whole series. In the first 2 and some of the 3rd book i hated snape sooooooooooooo much, and then i liked him more in 4th,5th and most of 6th except of the end. I dont really like the first 2 chapters in all the books genrally there kinda boring but importent. with all this said i wouldn't change the books at all even though i didnt like bits of them, everything happens for a reason in these books so even if we hate it now it will make them better later.

The entire thing needed more meat.  It was great, don't get me wrong, but I feel like she gave us only what we needed, tossed in a couple of things to make a point, then shoved the book out the door.  It seemed rushed.

I would have liked to see more classes, more of Neville (he's certainly earned a more central position), LESS Ron/Lavender.  I know what her intentions were behind Ron/Lavender, but it got really boring after awhile.  More Lupin.  More of the Order in general.  

The book as a whole felt somewhat disconnected from 5 and there were some things I would have liked to see carried on.

Also, what's up with the whole HBP part of it?  Did that really have any point at all?  I hope there's more to come out of it in 7, otherwise it will have seemed almost entirely pointless.

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What was the point? Yeah, Snape is the HBP, so? What does that mean? What does that have to do with anything? I'm hoping they'll be an answer to that in the next book.

I agree with you NikiTish. HBP is my favorite book so far but I mean the title was Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince and by the end of the book I did not see the significance. All the other titles became clear by the end of the book but this one didnt. (like chamber of secrets was all about who was opening the chamber, and philosophers stone was about stopping LV from retrieving it, you catch my drift?) So Snape is the HBP.... what's the big deal... why was the whole book named after him unless there's something we're missing here......

~Mythril~

Snape bothers me the most.
"Snape is good. No, Snape is bad. Wait a minute, Snape is good, eventhough everything tells us he's bad. No, take that back, Snape is really bad, but maybe........"
It's gotten to the point where I don't care anymore. He has become an editorial contrivance and no longer qualifies as a real character. Whenever I read about Snape, I can visualize the strings on the puppet. It is one of my greatest disappointments in the HBP. A Cardinal rule in literature is that the characters have integrity.
There must be justification for their behavior, no matter how obscure or bizarre that behavior is.
There is virtually no background on Snape's character, save his worst nightmare. He lives in a rundown Muggle neighborhood. But, Why???? This is a major character in the books. In HPB, where he is supposedly the title character, we learn more about Voldie who isn't even in the book. Snape's actions are the integral turning points in the book. Yet, there is absolutely no resolution for any of his actions. He has become an entirely flat character, capable of anything, at the author's convenience.

Umbridge, on the other hand, is a delightful character. She is fully fleshed out. You despise her. The reader can taste the disgust you feel for her. She's dangerous, and you know why she is that way. Snape has just become tiresome, and that is not good for such an integral character in the plot.

I hated Tonks. And the fact that Umbridge went to Dumbledore's funeral. And I hated how Harry didn't win Gryffindor the Quidditch cup, Ginny did. And I hated hoe Snape stunned Flitwick. And I hated how uptight Hermione was about muffliato. But what I really hated was the fact that for 5 seconds I thought that Harry had killed Draco. That was horrible for me.

Other than the above (and others I probably forgot to mention) I reeeeeally enjoyed the book-I thought it was an absolute beauty!

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"Snape is good. No, Snape is bad. Wait a minute, Snape is good, eventhough everything tells us he's bad. No, take that back, Snape is really bad, but maybe........"

hahhah well put, i am getting sick of talking about wheather snape is good or evil.

I whole-heartedly agree!

The most irritating thing for me was Umbridge and her "'hem hem'"ing constantly.  Although this is no doubt what JKR was aiming for, but I just wanted to choke the woman (Umbridge that is!)

QUOTE(repurr @ Aug. 16 2005,16:00 )

Snape bothers me the most.
"Snape is good. No, Snape is bad. Wait a minute, Snape is good, eventhough everything tells us he's bad. No, take that back, Snape is really bad, but maybe........"
It's gotten to the point where I don't care anymore. He has become an editorial contrivance and no longer qualifies as a real character. Whenever I read about Snape, I can visualize the strings on the puppet. It is one of my greatest disappointments in the HBP. A Cardinal rule in literature is that the characters have integrity.
There must be justification for their behavior, no matter how obscure or bizarre that behavior is.

I agree with you that Snape is becoming tiresome--but maybe that was JKR's point.  Maybe she was sick of shrouding Snape's true intentions in mystery, and finally revealed him to be bad in this one. Maybe his "switch" to the dark side will play a huge role in the next book (huger than it already has, I mean). I think she's basically doing what she's hinted at all along--Snape really is bad, and Dumbledore has been wrong about him.  I was somewhat disappointed in this outcome.  Just as I didn't want Dumbledore to die, and was almost ready to believe the "Dumbledore isn't dead' theory, I'm still trying to find ways in which Snape might be good.  JKR is doing the opposite of what we all wanted--we all truly believed in Dumbledore's trust in Snape, but HE WAS WRONG.  

I agree with you, repurr--I think the way she handled this revelation was more than a little clumsy from a literary point of view.  His character doesn't seem to have enough depth/integrity to truly be believable, and his intentions are NEVER made clear. but, perhaps--Maybe that's the point?Perhaps he merely reflects the ambiguity of good vs. evil??  

well let me see...
i have been reading and hearing that HP books are getting darker and darker. well, HP is growing as is his enemy's power. there are other stuff that need to be more attention now that LV is back for vengence....
i could not figure out what i hated the most about HBP. but i have come to notice that my family hears me making mock retching sounds when i am reading certain parts of HBP. that clued me in.
1. Dumbledore dies.
2. Slughorn steals Aragog's blood.
but most importantly..
******* Harry's Spiderman-ish kind of explanation for breaking up with Ginny.
i was practically gagging when i was reading the second time. now i merely skip that section. (Public demand that i stop making disgusting noises).
HP says 'Vol. already used you as a bait as you were my best friend's sister.' oh please. till GOF no one (DE)knew LV was back. Lucius Malfoy wanted to have mr.weasley discreditted for having Dark object. if it were not Ginny it would have been some other student as well since Lucius malfoy was getting rid of Dark objects from his place.

A very nice thread but in the wrong place. Off you go to the Pensieve Parlour!!

Mobilithreadus!

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You have just voiced my thoughts!!

I also hated in POA where you have Hermione, the smartest witch of her year, Lupin and Sirius, exceedingly bright and not one of them thought of stunning PP to ensure he couldn't escape. HELLO?

What do you think is the first thing he would have done? How can you have four extra-ordinarily clever people there and not one of them thinks to stun him. Then again, Snape was out cold but I bet he would have thought of it, serves them right really for knocking him out cold. After he came to protect them and everything! The real hero of the stories.

I'm not thick, I understand that PP had to escape in order for there to be a Book 4, 5, 6 and 7 but JK could have thought of a better way.

Nice to get that off my chest.

I hate Harry ranting in caps lock! But I do like Harry's rants per se.

There's also one repetition in PoA that freaks me out every time I read it: in the first Diviniation lesson, 'books [won't help much] in this subject' twice in a paragraph. Call me picky.

Somehow the fact that Harry 'only' gets masses of detention and couldn't play in the Quidditch Final for using Sectumsempra on Draco annoyed me. And soon afterwards he gets the girl, too. Somehow I perceive getting to kiss Ginny as a direct result of using Sectumsempra on Draco, which isn't a punishment. I know this is a false perception, and the detention isn't fun at all, but still...

I do not like the fact that there is never a single 'good' Slytherin. I bet there are many, but we only ever see the nasty ones. I wish we could have seen a normal Slytherin, even just someone passing a milk jug or simply not sneering at Harry & co. I think the chances for one appearing in Book 7 are pretty low.

I also really dislike the persecution of Zacharias Smith! I dislike that Fred and George are such bulllies, telling him to shut up in the Hog's Head when he's only being critical, and hexing him behind his back. He doesn't come across as mean enough to merit such treatment, in my opinion.

And I think Grawp is just too much. Grawp is what makes OotP too big. No pun intended. Not Grawp as a character, but talking so much about him... I know he does narrative-relevant stuff, but still. The whole Giants thing could have been shorter. Sorry, Hagrid.

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I completely agree. Although the part that really got to me was " Dumbledore had left the school, had left the world, had left Harry." (thats not direct, just from what i remember.) But when I read it, I just lost it. We can have a sob party together!

I dislike the fact that Neville is so important to the story and Harry and Co. Dont hang out with him. Really, dont acknowlege him.

Umbrige is a foul evil woman. She deserves her comeuppance. I will be very upset if there is no justice with her in the final book. However, I do understand the parallels with politics and public corruption.

Snape was begining to be a great character, but with the first 5, even 6 books about the roles of good and evil, and trust, I am left even more confused with the whole " Is snape really evil or really good?"

I loved book 6, but I finished with more questions than answers. But I love the horcrux storyline. Its brilliant, and creates hope for Harry that he can defeat Voldermort.

All in all, I dont have much to gripe about Harry Potter. My main dislike is that it is ending and I will no longer write things like :Why doesnet JK hurry up already?!?!

I hate Snape lovers (Cough cough Voldie) no I don't really! I just can't see there logic

I hate Snape thats better

Things I didn't like about HP:

1) Dumbledore Dying.
2) Harry in such a bad mood in OOtP.
3) Umbrige- just everything about her.
4) Harry and Ginny breaking up.

Lol.

You don't want to see our logic.

People only hate SS becuase he's the only one who doesn't love Harry and couldn't give a toss (sorry if that's considered as swearing, it's just a phrase, here) if Harry find things out the hard way or the easy way.

He helps Harry and he never gets a thank you, soem Harry Potter fans, *cough*Gryffinclaw*cough* take it upon themselves to forget these instances!

Ask yourself this, when has Sirius ever saved Harry? Snape has!

Sirius and James are way evil and everyone lurves them, just because they like Harry.

Ack.

I hate people out to get Snape and that JK hates him too!!

He's just so misunderstood, I get him though.

hey! I think Sirius transforming into a dog and dragging Lupin-As-Werewolf away from the kids at the end of PoA might have saved Harry. He was also part of the Rescue Mission in the Department of Mysteries in OotP.

Back to topic:
Evil or not, Snape is ugly. I dislike it when people make out he's a stunner! Sure, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but still Snape's referred to as greasy and twitching and other unpleasant visual attributes so much in the books. And, whether downright evil or not, he's really quite mean to Harry (and Neville. And Hermione. And Ron...) But I agree, Voldie, that Harry's also biased against Snape! I'd hoped in HBP he might be a wee bit ... if not compassionate, then tolerant of Snape after the Pensieve scene etc. But, as Lupin said, he is determined to hate Snape.

I agree; HP is not kid's books.
What I don't like is that Harry only falls in love with girls that is described as "extremely pretty" (Cho) and "even you think she is good looking and we all know how hard you are to please" (Malfoy talking about Ginny) "a lot of boys like her", "she was also very popular, always surrounded by friends" and so on and so on. Both Cho and Ginny is decsribed as small, petite girls "shorter than Harry with about a head".
In short; quite perfect young ladies! Don't get me wrong, I like both Cho and Ginny, but I myself are quite ordinary looking and 3-4 centimeters taller than my Chinese husband and we are still happily married. I was never popular at school and never "completely surrounded by friends" but I'm still happy being myself and I have a wonderful husband.
Well, we have to remember that the people at Hogwarts are teenagers: everything has to be COOL and PERFECT at that age. But it still annoys me, though. Go Luna! Rant over.

I meant saved Harry only and nt to save a whole group.

Snape is not ugly. That's actually very vain to dislike someone because of their appearance.

Harry is his arch-enemy's son. Do you expect him to greet him with a box of chocolates each day?

As for Hermione, that is unfair and I think there's more to it with Neville.

I will always prefer Snape over Harry.

Snape not unfair to Hermione???

In GoF when Malfoy makes Hermione's teeth grow snape says "I see no difference" that's one reason I hate Snape

p.s. He is ugly