I was just curious to see whose death was harder/sader/more of shocker.
I'm torn... Sirius's death was definitely more of a shocker, it came outta left field. And Dumbledore... I sorta saw it coming once DD started giving Harry private lessons. But since DD was my favorite character, I think his death was definitely harder to handle.
How about everybody else?
Full Version: Sirius or Dumbledore
i loved sirius soo much but i have to admit that dumbledores actually made me sob..sirius's death just caused me to sniffle
I feel the same way. I think we all knew when the series started that eventually Dumbledore would leave us in one way or another. As for Sirius, I was crushed to find that the one person somewhat related to Harry had to leave to soon after their reunion.
Sirius gets my vote.
Sirius gets my vote.
sirius's death was harder to take because DD was a mentor but he never got too emotionally involved (yes he seemed to cry now and then and tell harry that he had messed up in his dealings with him because he had grown to care for him too much, but he never gave him a hug or anything, did he?). with sirius, he didn't need to - it wasn't his style. but in his own gruff way, he was a father and friend rolled into one - and he had a certain charm for the ladies (which is ironic considering JKR has now as much as said that sirius never even thought about romance in his life). yes - i'm digressing but basically - sirius.
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I knew both were going to die before the actually scenes, so they both didn't hit me too hard for a few moments.
I cried for Sirius because I knew how much he meant to Harry- it hit me horribly when Harry found the mirror that could have changed his godfather's fate.
I sobbed, though when Dumbledore died. I thought he would die a noble death, but at the time I saw it as a dirty act of betrayal. I feel differently now, but I definately cried very hard at the last three chapters. I came to love Dumbledore more than I ever did Sirius. I felt Dumbledore dying was just a heartbreaker.
I cried for Sirius because I knew how much he meant to Harry- it hit me horribly when Harry found the mirror that could have changed his godfather's fate.
I sobbed, though when Dumbledore died. I thought he would die a noble death, but at the time I saw it as a dirty act of betrayal. I feel differently now, but I definately cried very hard at the last three chapters. I came to love Dumbledore more than I ever did Sirius. I felt Dumbledore dying was just a heartbreaker.
Sirius' definitely. It's shocking how much I cried at Sirius' death. I didn't cry at all at Dumbledore's, it was too exciting.
Plus, Sirius was a younger man and had so much left to do.
Plus, Sirius was a younger man and had so much left to do.
Dumbledore's was harder for me. Sirius' death seemed so fast and outta left field that I never had time to take it in and so when it was done it was done.
Dumbledore's was harder for me. Sirius was cool, but I didn't have the same kind of emotional attachment to him as I did to Dumbledore. DD exemplified so many good things and was such a source of gentle comfort and safety. To lose all that and to see Harry finally robbed of his last and greatest defender was really hard.
Sirius' death was very hard to take. I've been infatuated with him ever since Hagrid mentioned his flying motorbike in the first book, and I never expected him to die. He was supposed to have his name cleared and then take Harry off to live in a nice house, somewhere they could see the sky ::sniffles::
Dumbledore's death was easier to predict, and although I love him as a character, he never meant as much to me as Sirius. But in a way his death was harder to take, mainly because Harry had already lost Sirius and I didn't want him to be left without a father-figure in his life.
So I guess what I'm saying is that Dumbledore's death was worse, but only because Sirius died first!
Dumbledore's death was easier to predict, and although I love him as a character, he never meant as much to me as Sirius. But in a way his death was harder to take, mainly because Harry had already lost Sirius and I didn't want him to be left without a father-figure in his life.
So I guess what I'm saying is that Dumbledore's death was worse, but only because Sirius died first!
I began to dislike Sirius in OOTP tobe honest. and Dumbledore was starting to bug me somewhat with his lack of action, so i'm unsure. probably dumbledore, however expected it was.
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I cried for Sirius because I knew how much he meant to Harry- it hit me horribly when Harry found the mirror that could have changed his godfather's fate.
I sobbed, though when Dumbledore died. I thought he would die a noble death, but at the time I saw it as a dirty act of betrayal. I feel differently now, but I definately cried very hard at the last three chapters. I came to love Dumbledore more than I ever did Sirius. I felt Dumbledore dying was just a heartbreaker.
I sobbed, though when Dumbledore died. I thought he would die a noble death, but at the time I saw it as a dirty act of betrayal. I feel differently now, but I definately cried very hard at the last three chapters. I came to love Dumbledore more than I ever did Sirius. I felt Dumbledore dying was just a heartbreaker.
Agree 100%. I still get choked up thinking about it.
Sirius gets my vote. Harry's reaction is what really got me. It was instant denial, and you really felt for him. Plus, I think its harder to see a sad character, someone who you pity (he was cooped up in that terrible house!), die.
But both Sirius and Dumbledore, R.I.P.
But both Sirius and Dumbledore, R.I.P.
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i loved sirius soo much but i have to admit that dumbledores actually made me sob..sirius's death just caused me to sniffle
Dumbledore's was much harder to take for me, he had been around since the beginning and while I liked Sirius I felt like I didn't know him too well, he hadn't been in the books that much.
QUOTE(avonlady @ July 24 2005,19:22 )
I began to dislike Sirius in OOTP tobe honest. and Dumbledore was starting to bug me somewhat with his lack of action, so i'm unsure. probably dumbledore, however expected it was.
I agree. Sirius seemed to not put Harry and his needs before his own in OotP and I was annoyed with him for it. He was not being a responsible adult for Harry. I still did not want him to die. I just wanted Lupin or someone to slap him and tell him to get over it.
Dumbledore's death was predictable, yet I cried so hard that my husband made me stop reading and drink some water. HE was afraid that I was going to hyperventilate or something. It was awful.
Dumbledore's just because of the way she wrote it. When he was lying dead on the ground and Harry fixed his glasses and wiped away the blood - it was sooo sad! And the funeral too - Ah!
Omigosh! Dumbledore, Dumbledore, Dumbledore!
I thought it was sad when Sirius died, but I didn't even tear up. But when Dumbledore died I cried and cried, all the way through the end of the book. I was so shaken by his death because of everything he's come to represent throughout the series: Harry's mentor, savior, hero. He was a standard of power and kindness through which all the other noble characters clung to. It hit me hard because I know he won't be there anymore. He won't be there to save everyone at the last moment, he won't be there to explain all the magical mumbo-jumbo at the end of the book, he won't be there to give Harry word of wisdom paired with comical mad-man rambling.
Sirius's death was sad, but I felt like I knew Dumbledore so much more. He was one of the first wizards we were introduced to, and he's done so much for Harry. I'm really going to miss him.
So yes, Dumbledore has my vote. His death was the first time I ever cried while reading a book. My stomach still ties in knots when I think about it. :cry:
I thought it was sad when Sirius died, but I didn't even tear up. But when Dumbledore died I cried and cried, all the way through the end of the book. I was so shaken by his death because of everything he's come to represent throughout the series: Harry's mentor, savior, hero. He was a standard of power and kindness through which all the other noble characters clung to. It hit me hard because I know he won't be there anymore. He won't be there to save everyone at the last moment, he won't be there to explain all the magical mumbo-jumbo at the end of the book, he won't be there to give Harry word of wisdom paired with comical mad-man rambling.
Sirius's death was sad, but I felt like I knew Dumbledore so much more. He was one of the first wizards we were introduced to, and he's done so much for Harry. I'm really going to miss him.
So yes, Dumbledore has my vote. His death was the first time I ever cried while reading a book. My stomach still ties in knots when I think about it. :cry:
Sirius's death was shocking... dumbledore was a martyr.
*i am preemptively apologizing for this so please forgive me, fellow Potter People!*
being that i didn't like the sixth book that much (this is the part where i protect my face from speeding stones zooming at me) i wasn't too freaked out by DD dying. Forgive me, but i never quite forgave DD for lying to Harry for five years about the prophecy (now i put on my crash helmet to absorb shock from baseball bats). i kept waiting for harry and DD to get into a big argument and harry to vent out all the anger he felt for DD. but because it never happened, i sort of began to resent DD (i finally find refuge under a picnic table to hide me from nuclear explosions *sigh of relief). Sirius on the other hand was my favorite character (and still is) because he could never show that much emotion, but you knew he meant it all the same. after reading OotP, i cried for 3 days! i was so distraught! and then in HBP, harry just suddenly got over Sirius' death and moved on! i just felt like he got over sirius too quick. sorry for the narrative, but here's the jest: Sirius has my vote!
being that i didn't like the sixth book that much (this is the part where i protect my face from speeding stones zooming at me) i wasn't too freaked out by DD dying. Forgive me, but i never quite forgave DD for lying to Harry for five years about the prophecy (now i put on my crash helmet to absorb shock from baseball bats). i kept waiting for harry and DD to get into a big argument and harry to vent out all the anger he felt for DD. but because it never happened, i sort of began to resent DD (i finally find refuge under a picnic table to hide me from nuclear explosions *sigh of relief). Sirius on the other hand was my favorite character (and still is) because he could never show that much emotion, but you knew he meant it all the same. after reading OotP, i cried for 3 days! i was so distraught! and then in HBP, harry just suddenly got over Sirius' death and moved on! i just felt like he got over sirius too quick. sorry for the narrative, but here's the jest: Sirius has my vote!
I never liked Sirius in the first place, so I´m going to say...Dumbledore.
Dumbledore, no competition. I didn't even cry when Sirius died. I loved him, and I felt for Harry, but with Sirius, we didn't even see a dead body, and I just felt like it was a very open-ended question.
I thought for certain that DD would die, but it still didn't prepare me for the shock of it. After I read it, I threw my book away from me and screamed "Noooooo!" I just couldn't believe how it happened. I expected a much nobler death for my favorite character. I couldn't even make a decision for a few days after to whether or not I liked HBP, I was so distraught. And last night, when we were watching HP and the Sorcerer's Stone, I started crying every time Dumbledore came on screen, and had the incredible urge to curse Alan Rickman into oblivion!
I thought for certain that DD would die, but it still didn't prepare me for the shock of it. After I read it, I threw my book away from me and screamed "Noooooo!" I just couldn't believe how it happened. I expected a much nobler death for my favorite character. I couldn't even make a decision for a few days after to whether or not I liked HBP, I was so distraught. And last night, when we were watching HP and the Sorcerer's Stone, I started crying every time Dumbledore came on screen, and had the incredible urge to curse Alan Rickman into oblivion!
QUOTE(WhiteMage @ July 24 2005,9:06 pm)
Omigosh! Dumbledore, Dumbledore, Dumbledore!
I thought it was sad when Sirius died, but I didn't even tear up. But when Dumbledore died I cried and cried, all the way through the end of the book. I was so shaken by his death because of everything he's come to represent throughout the series: Harry's mentor, savior, hero. He was a standard of power and kindness through which all the other noble characters clung to. It hit me hard because I know he won't be there anymore. He won't be there to save everyone at the last moment, he won't be there to explain all the magical mumbo-jumbo at the end of the book, he won't be there to give Harry word of wisdom paired with comical mad-man rambling.
Sirius's death was sad, but I felt like I knew Dumbledore so much more. He was one of the first wizards we were introduced to, and he's done so much for Harry. I'm really going to miss him.
So yes, Dumbledore has my vote. His death was the first time I ever cried while reading a book. My stomach still ties in knots when I think about it. :cry:
I thought it was sad when Sirius died, but I didn't even tear up. But when Dumbledore died I cried and cried, all the way through the end of the book. I was so shaken by his death because of everything he's come to represent throughout the series: Harry's mentor, savior, hero. He was a standard of power and kindness through which all the other noble characters clung to. It hit me hard because I know he won't be there anymore. He won't be there to save everyone at the last moment, he won't be there to explain all the magical mumbo-jumbo at the end of the book, he won't be there to give Harry word of wisdom paired with comical mad-man rambling.
Sirius's death was sad, but I felt like I knew Dumbledore so much more. He was one of the first wizards we were introduced to, and he's done so much for Harry. I'm really going to miss him.
So yes, Dumbledore has my vote. His death was the first time I ever cried while reading a book. My stomach still ties in knots when I think about it. :cry:
100% agree! Ive read HBP twice and the second time around,when I got to the part where he says, I`m not worried I`m with you, I just put down the book,went into the pantry and got a tissue box because I started tearing up so badly and becuz I knew what would be happening in the next chapter! I really really cried during the funeral! My friends and I are wearing black wristbands around our right hands (Dumbledore`s wand hand and therefore the hand where he was burned) to show mourning and commemorating his memory!
Dumbledore's was definitley harder for me. I actually cried. I can't remember ever crying from a book before. To be honest, I didn't like Sirius that much. When I read his death, I was like, wait what just happened? Ah, well and kept reading. I knew Dumbldore's death was coming, but I think the reason it was so shocking was because of the way he died.
Dumbledore's death was obvious. Sirius was so casual, unexpected...
Sirius was harder.
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Sirius was harder.
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Dumbledore.
I liked Sirius and was sad when Harry lost him, but I was never really too attached to him. I have always loved Dumbledore and even though I had sort of guessed that he might be next, it still just hit me really hard.
I liked Sirius and was sad when Harry lost him, but I was never really too attached to him. I have always loved Dumbledore and even though I had sort of guessed that he might be next, it still just hit me really hard.
There really should've been a poll in this thread...I'd have liked to see the votes up next to each other!
I'd have to say Sirius. It was just so unexpected. As much as I loved DD and was sad to see him die I feel like his death has a purpose whereas Sirius's death was just a horrible accident.
For me, Dumbly. I mean, I like Sirius and all, and I wish he weren't dead, but as far as Harry getting Voldy, Dumbly was key. Not that Harry can't do it, just that, he's really really alone now. I mean, after Sirius died Harry still had Dumbly. Now there is no one to guide him.
I don't know, I just adored Dumbly. He was such an awesome, awesome character.
I don't know, I just adored Dumbly. He was such an awesome, awesome character.
I think Sirius' was harder, for me, because it was unexpected. Theya re fighting, bam bam boom whack, all of a sudden he falls through the veil and he's gone forever. What the hell? Stop the presses, didn't see it coming.
On the other hand, it seemed like Dumbledore's death was inevitable, with subtle (and not-so-subtle) hints being dropped throughout book 6 leading right up to the end.
On the other hand, it seemed like Dumbledore's death was inevitable, with subtle (and not-so-subtle) hints being dropped throughout book 6 leading right up to the end.
Sirius' death was much harder for me. The way it was so sudden and the way harry reacted made me sob and sob. He was the closest thing that Harry had to parent and it just made me feel so sad for him.
DD's death was hard for me too because he is one of my favorite characters, but i knew it was going to happen. I was more shocked at how it happened then that it had happened... it took a couple of moments to even realize what had happened.
DD's death was hard for me too because he is one of my favorite characters, but i knew it was going to happen. I was more shocked at how it happened then that it had happened... it took a couple of moments to even realize what had happened.
I found DD's death sadder and more emotional. I didn't cry when Sirius died, but i sure did when DD did. I think it was because Sirius's death was so sudden and there was no funeral, so i didn't really absorb it. But DD's seemed dragged out, and then there was that funeral, and...let's just say i made waterfalls look small.
Sirius.
I had thought about Sirisu being killed before, but just never thought it could really happen. It seemed so quick and so casual. And especailly after not even knowing him for that long. That was very hard for me. I cried.
I expected Dumbledore to be dying as soon as I finished reading OotP. He had to go for Harry to be able to face Voldemort alone. It seems that Dumbledore knew what he was doing- knew he had to die. It was sad, but for me, expected. I didn't cry.
Both were sad, both are hard....but Sirius's was worse for me.
I had thought about Sirisu being killed before, but just never thought it could really happen. It seemed so quick and so casual. And especailly after not even knowing him for that long. That was very hard for me. I cried.
I expected Dumbledore to be dying as soon as I finished reading OotP. He had to go for Harry to be able to face Voldemort alone. It seems that Dumbledore knew what he was doing- knew he had to die. It was sad, but for me, expected. I didn't cry.
Both were sad, both are hard....but Sirius's was worse for me.
I took Sirius's death a lot harder. I've assumed for a while that DD would die in book 7, so it just came a little sooner than expected. Plus, Dumbledore was old and had lived a full life, whereas Sirius was so young, and had missed out on a good part of his life being stuck in Azkaban. He died just when he was finally getting to live.
QUOTE(avonlady @ July 24 2005,19:22 )
I began to dislike Sirius in OOTP tobe honest. and Dumbledore was starting to bug me somewhat with his lack of action, so i'm unsure. probably dumbledore, however expected it was.
I agree, Sirius' behavior was really ticking me off. He wanted Harry to be like James, do things that really weren't appropriate. So when he fell through that veil it didn't upset me in the slightest. I kept thinking is this what all the fuss is about?
Dumbledore death shocked me, not that it happened I was expecting him to die before the series finished. But in the way that it happened. I had to put the book down and just walk away.
Sirius, by far. I thought Sirius was actually going to be in the rest of the books and have a huge impact on what happened in Harry's last years at Hogwarts. I loved Sirius. Yes, he made some poor decisions and wasn't the perfect character, but so what? Made him all the more wonderful to me. When he died I was so angry I couldn't even think about Harry Potter for about a year or so. Dumbledore's death was hard, but he was old and it was pretty obvious he was going to be a goner sooner or later. Sirius's life was just yanked from under me unexpectedly. I'm still bitter about it too.
I thought that Sirius' death was more of a shock. i didn't see it coming at all but Dumbledore's death upset me more. The first time I read the book I hadn't seen it coming and I cried. When I read over it I couldn't believe how many obvious clues that he was going to die that I had missed. I think that DD's death affected me more cos he was in all the books and he was kinda the replacement father figure in Harry's life.
Sirius'.
Dumbledore's death, though it was a rather "shameful" death (in the sense that he didn't go out in a blaze of glory) was full of purpose and meaning. Sirius' was just a tragic and seemingly purposeless accident.
That's why Sirius' death involves the angry shattering of a mirror, rage, and hopelessness, and Dumbledore's death (specifically at his funeral) involves warm reminiscing about the Wizard's life.
Dumbledore's death, though it was a rather "shameful" death (in the sense that he didn't go out in a blaze of glory) was full of purpose and meaning. Sirius' was just a tragic and seemingly purposeless accident.
That's why Sirius' death involves the angry shattering of a mirror, rage, and hopelessness, and Dumbledore's death (specifically at his funeral) involves warm reminiscing about the Wizard's life.
Dumbledore's death was much harder for me. Just didn't seem to know Sirius as well...his death, for me, was sadness for Harry.
The deaths of Snape and Lupin will be the worst for me! Yes, I think they will both die in book 7.
The deaths of Snape and Lupin will be the worst for me! Yes, I think they will both die in book 7.
Absolutely Dumledore 
. It was really hard for me i couldn't read last two chapters for a while. I always thought that Dumbledore was more closer to Harry than Sirius.
. It was really hard for me i couldn't read last two chapters for a while. I always thought that Dumbledore was more closer to Harry than Sirius.
for me It was Dumbledore's. I did see it coming and also saw that in him asking for snape he was kinda asking for death it seemed.. i feel dumb saying this but it does seem that an arangement was made for snape to kill dumbledore that he was aware of he seemed to be stalling so that malfoy wouldnt have to and when he said please i dont think he was begging to live but asking for snape to kill him ... just my thoughts
definately dumbledore! it was so sad at the end the way evry1 was crying and all cuz he's such a great charecter and was so kind i couldn't help but cry a lil myself :'( RIP DD x x x
Dumbledore. I really liked siruis but I really loved and respected Dumbledore. He is one of those characters in a book you can learn from. His (ok well obviously JK’s but it is manifested in DD) explanation of how tyrants create their own eventual ruin through their oppression was inspirational. Did I see it coming? Yes. But I was still devastated.
Sirius's death was very hard for me, but I got over it faster than with Dumbledore's. I choked up a lot when I read Dumbledore's death scene the first time--I was so shocked, almost too shocked to cry very much--the second time I read it (out loud to my sister) I *sobbed* non-stop. It made me cry like nothing else in any of the books!! Because we actually see him dying. With Cedric, he just suddenly falls to the ground. Sirius just falls through the veil. Dumbledore is wasting away, dying slowly, pleading for Snape to help him/stay on the good side (I don't really think he was begging him to kill him, I can't see him asking him to commit murder). And then the fact that he was betrayed by someone he trusted, and thrown off of the tower. That was partly what made me so sad. And the whole death scene, Phoenix lament and funeral were written so beautifully.
QUOTE(Xan @ July 24 2005,22:46 )
(i finally find refuge under a picnic table to hide me from nuclear explosions *sigh of relief).
That was funny! Even though my vote goes to DD and I liked HBP... I enjoyed your humor!
Hmm...this is a tough one for me. I think that Sirius' death was more of a shock for me. It wasn't really on my mind when reading OotP that someone would die, because I hadn't been into the books before (I read the first five all at once and only then started following it online and realized that everyone else knew someone was going to die), and it just sort of happened suddenly. I didn't dislike him as a character, and I do think that Harry's reaction to his death was much more upsetting than him actually dying. I remember being depressed after it happened.
But it was nothing like how I feel now, with Dumbledore gone, even though I completely expected him to die in this book before I even started reading it. As I started reading it, it became even more obvious that he was going to die. The one thing that was shocking, as well as deeply upsetting and depressing for me (and the reason it had such an emotional impact) was not so much that he died, but the way that he died. It just ripped my heart out. Plus, all the emotional moments he had with Harry made it that much harder.
But it was nothing like how I feel now, with Dumbledore gone, even though I completely expected him to die in this book before I even started reading it. As I started reading it, it became even more obvious that he was going to die. The one thing that was shocking, as well as deeply upsetting and depressing for me (and the reason it had such an emotional impact) was not so much that he died, but the way that he died. It just ripped my heart out. Plus, all the emotional moments he had with Harry made it that much harder.
Sirius's death definitely came as more of a shock to me- I knew someone was going to die, but I didn't know who. Plus Harry's reaction to that death was extremely emotional, I definitely cried. However, Dumbledore was one of my favorite characters, and even though I had a feeling he would die, I was still really upset. He was so wise and honestly I don't know how I'm going to like the last book with him gone. Both deaths hit me hard in different ways. I think I got over Sirius's faster though. I really hurt for Harry ( I know he's a fictional character, but I've become so attached) It seems like everyone who matters to him is dying, I don't know how he stands it.
I think I was more shocked by DD death. I never pictured him being weak and he was weakened so much in book six. I guess I got use to him always figuring out some brilliant solution to a problem. I think I had the same problem Harry had in Book 3. I was use to DD being able to fix everything, that I couldn't picture him not being able to. Even after Sirius death.
Sirius - I had to reread it a couple of times out of disbelief. Harry was just getting to know someone that connected him to his parents. This was just plain tragic!
With DD, I was really getting frustrated with the inaction. I was getting the sense that the message is going to be Harry has had the power to defeat the Dark Lord all along, and there was little that DD could have taught him anyway.
With DD, I was really getting frustrated with the inaction. I was getting the sense that the message is going to be Harry has had the power to defeat the Dark Lord all along, and there was little that DD could have taught him anyway.
Dumbledore's was mutch harder for me. When sirius died I was sad and I cryed a bit, but with DD i was sobbing from when he drank the potion untill the funeral. I was still depressed 3 days later. I did see it coming though. The way we where constently being told how weak he was and how tired he sounded ect., but I was still very deeply hert.(i'm still kind of depressed)
Sirius-just BAWLING, I did NOT see that coming. However...I felt that Dumbledore would die in this book, it was just a looming feeling, ever since he came to the Dursley's and told them he was not pleased with how they treated Harry-the fact he was at Privet Drive again, just as he was before after the Potter's death, confirmed it for me.
I am still shocked at HOW it happened, but really I would have hoped JKR wouldn't fall into the Kill-The-Mentor pattern. But also because Harry is more mature now, he seemed to accept the death and move on, with Sirius the reader felt his pain more than our pain...well I won't lie and say reading OOTP nine hours straight wasn't painful, it weighed about 5 pounds didn't it...
I am still shocked at HOW it happened, but really I would have hoped JKR wouldn't fall into the Kill-The-Mentor pattern. But also because Harry is more mature now, he seemed to accept the death and move on, with Sirius the reader felt his pain more than our pain...well I won't lie and say reading OOTP nine hours straight wasn't painful, it weighed about 5 pounds didn't it...
Dumbledore, it was the first time in the whole series that i actually cried, even though the remember cedric diggory speech in gof brings a lump to my throat. with sirius i didn't actually believe for quite a few pages, i didn't recognize the death as a death. but man avada kedavra and the whole body at the base of the tower and the sense that he didn't have to die. and i kept crying till just about the end of the book.
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